{"id":5407,"date":"2014-07-13T14:56:24","date_gmt":"2014-07-13T12:56:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/kul.ro\/blog\/?p=5407"},"modified":"2014-12-04T15:17:00","modified_gmt":"2014-12-04T13:17:00","slug":"despre-constiinta-2014","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kul.ro\/blog\/2014\/07\/despre-constiinta-2014\/","title":{"rendered":"despre con\u0219tiin\u021b\u0103 (2014)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Cartea <font style=\"font-size:1.5em;\"><em>&#8220;Teatrul min\u021bii&#8221; Jay Ingram, Ed. Curtea Veche, 2008<\/em><\/font> mi-a facut rezumatul unor lecturi din varii domenii a ultimilor 3-4 ani de \u00eentreb\u0103ri, c\u0103ut\u0103ri \u0219i r\u0103spunsuri. Iata-l, \u00eempreun\u0103 cu micile mele complet\u0103ri.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Q:<\/strong><br \/>\n&#8211; The Question: <em>cum se realizeaz\u0103 \u00een creier con\u015ftiin\u0163a?<\/em>  din (ce) componente \/ ce module implic\u0103.<br \/>\n&#8211; q.: este generat\u0103 (varianta preferat\u0103 academic) sau e receiver TV like. sau e generat\u0103 dar interac\u0163ioneaz\u0103 cu altele la nivele pe care nu le cunoa\u015ftem \/ percepem (c\u00e2mpuri \/ unde (\u00eenc\u0103) necunoscute).<br \/>\n&#8211; q.: realitatea schizofrenicului e mai pu\u0163in\u0103 (sau mai mult\u0103) dec\u00e2t cea &#8216;normal\u0103&#8217;?<\/p>\n<p><strong>(PROCESE) BRAIN:<\/strong><br \/>\n&#8211; brain = pattern seeker(s) + filtrare, ce are multiprograme ce compete to win<br \/>\n&#8211; dimensiuni: dac\u0103 creierul ar avea dimensiunea planetei P\u0103m\u00e2nt ar avea de 250 de ori suprafa\u0163a sa, iar un neurotransmi\u0163\u0103tor ar avea dimensiunea unei doze de cola. nr. neuroni === nr. stele<br \/>\n&#8211; realitatea (adic\u0103 o frac\u0163iune din ea) este reconstruit\u0103 de creier \u00een &#8220;simulator&#8221; (teatrul min\u0163ii)<br \/>\n&#8211; intui\u0163ie = predic\u0163ia (&#8220;amintirea&#8221;) unui lucru ce se va \u00eent\u00e2mpla<br \/>\n&#8211; dac\u0103 diferen\u0163a \u00eentre predic\u0163ie (cortex) \u015fi input (occipital) e mic\u0103 => se face incon\u015ftient (mersul pe biciclet\u0103, condusul)<br \/>\n&#8211; emisfera (left+right) e (paralel+secven\u0163ial) mode. vezi articol super-circuite.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; con\u015ftiin\u0163a = con\u015ftient de con\u015ftient (dogs are INCLUDED)<br \/>\n&#8211; la r\u00e2ndul s\u0103u con\u015ftiin\u0163a are componente (subcon\u015ftient, eu, supra-eu, hiperconstiin\u0163a etc.) \u015fi mecanisme? probabil c\u0103 da &#8211; fiind structuri.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ANIMALE:<\/strong><br \/>\n&#8211; \u015fi animalele au con\u015ftiin\u0163\u0103 dar&#8230; doar un pic :) pic-pic. maimu\u0163ele antrenate pe limbaj nu reu\u015fesc s\u0103 \u00een\u0163eleag\u0103 gramatica. &#8220;Bob kills Maria&#8221; same thing &#8220;Bob killed Maria&#8221;. dar \u00eenva\u0163\u0103 s\u0103 mint\u0103 ;)<br \/>\n&#8211; toate drepturile animalelor, pardon preten\u0163ii de umanitate din partea lor sunt proiec\u0163iile noastre. animalele nu-s mai bune sau mai rele, ele sunt. culmea, \u015fi noi la r\u00e2ndul nostru suntem biosferic animale.<br \/>\n&#8211; diferen\u0163a fa\u0163\u0103 de primate: cooked food => abunden\u0163\u0103 de energie => procesul cognitiv se amplific\u0103 (l\u0103f\u0103ie, \u00ee\u015fi permite, bog\u0103\u0163ie) \u015fi se &#8220;\u00eentoarce&#8221; asupra lui \u00eensu\u015fi.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ATEN\u0162IE:<\/strong><br \/>\n&#8211; <strong>con\u015ftiin\u0163\u0103 este ca un ziar al incon\u015ftientului<\/strong> (cotidian &#8211; ca o hart\u0103, ca un brief zilnic al companiei pt CEO)<br \/>\n&#8211; cit\u00e2nd teoreticieni AI: &#8220;cea mai bun\u0103 cale de a produce informa\u0163ia potrivit\u0103 penru rezolvarea problemelor din surse bogate este de a folosi o metod\u0103 de selec\u0163ie activ\u0103, foarte concentrat\u0103 \u015fi pe termen scurt.&#8221;<br \/>\n&#8211; flow ; attention ; bits \/ sec<br \/>\n&#8211; 2 bi\u0163i (2 g\u00e2nduri) \/ 1\/18 sec x 70 ani = 185 bilioane de bi\u0163i => e limitat. \u00eens\u0103 ca film, nu ca organizare.<br \/>\n&#8211; legea selec\u0163iei naturale \u00een con\u015ftiin\u0163\u0103: \u00een aten\u0163ie vine informa\u0163ia senzorial\u0103 care dureaz\u0103 (mai) mult \u015fi\/sau procesul mental care persist\u0103 (mai) mult. poate c\u0103 e un model over-simplificat dar c\u00e2t e func\u0163ional e ok. mo&#8217; input, mo&#8217; process.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LIMBAJ:<\/strong><br \/>\n&#8211; con\u015ftiin\u0163a este foarte pe limbaj; inter-depinde de el. limbajul e o structur\u0103 de social + collective learning \/ history.<br \/>\n&#8211; limbajul dezvolt\u0103 virtualizare, care 1) augumenteaza realitatea (realm-ul &#8211; realitatea de\/codat\u0103) \u015fi 2) dezvolt\u0103 tehnologie (tools + science)<\/p>\n<p><strong>MEMORIE:<\/strong><br \/>\n&#8211; unde este stocat\u0103 memoria? nu cumva celule gliale sunt chiar memoria? cortexul nu. c\u0103 hipotalamusul \u015fi amidala sunt doar circuite de formare, nu \u015fi stocare. vitale, dar&#8230; nu baza.<br \/>\n&#8211; amintirile copiilor sub 1 an fails pentru c\u0103 1) mecanismele respective \u00eenc\u0103 &#8216;devin&#8217; \u015fi 2) no limbaj dezvoltat (nu are cu ce s\u0103 se aga\u0163e, sau prea pu\u0163in, sau neantrenat antropomorfic)<\/p>\n<p><strong>NARATOR (THE INTERPRETER):<\/strong><br \/>\n&#8211; acel narator din capul nostru (noi! eu-ul, Gigi, L\u0103sc\u0103ric\u0103, &#8220;un fleac, m-au ciuruit!&#8230;&#8221;) nu exist\u0103. e meta-proces. it&#8217;s a lie. e personaj. CV-ul biologic e important; naratorul helps build this more up.<br \/>\n&#8211; alter_states sunt adapt\u0103ri la orice neurotoxin\u0103_like care nu ne omoar\u0103 (+ revenire! pe default => repar\u0103 => terapie). naratorul devine narator++ pentru c\u0103 e dulcele\/centrul aten\u0163iei.<br \/>\n&#8211; se pare emisfera dreapt\u0103 nu are o voce narativ\u0103 ( + limbaj + abstractizare). o arde pe imagini, senza\u0163ii mainly, dac\u0103. de\u015fi procese de &#8220;migrare&#8221; left->right s-au v\u0103zut \/ u\u015for cercetat (la afecta\u0163i).<br \/>\n&#8211; visele sunt computa\u0163iune de input senzorial sc\u0103zut + amintiri + narator (who needs to keep running &#8211; why?!) = poveste (absurd\u0103, &#8211;rules).<\/p>\n<p><strong>VIZUAL:<\/strong><br \/>\n&#8211; if blind zeci de ani \u015fi nu de la na\u015ftere, if refacere => ?, rezult\u0103 scrambles 2-3 weeks, aia rezult\u0103. cam aceia\u015fi durata \u015fi pt &#8216;adaptarea&#8217; la &#8220;ochelarii&#8221; cu sunete. fix neuroplasticitate.<br \/>\n&#8211; din 1 mil de imagini prezentate recunoa\u015ftem ~986k din ele. that visual! => de aceea imaginile pe net fac mult, \u015fi un pics \u00eenso\u0163ite de text love\u015fte unde tre&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; con\u015ftiin\u0163a este posibil s\u0103 fie precum gravita\u0163ia &#038; electricitatea, pur \u015fi simplu s\u0103 existe (\u015fi chiar condi\u0163ionat\u0103 de prezen\u0163a \u0103stora &#8211; cosmic, gen). \u015fi eventual doar s\u0103-i stabilim propriet\u0103\u0163i, \u00eenc\u0103 b\u00e2jb\u00e2im dar am luat-o c\u00e2t-de-c\u00e2t \u00eentr-o direc\u0163ie. vom depinde de rezolu\u0163ia \u015fi-mai-\u015fi a scanerelor chimico-electrice.<br \/>\n&#8211; dup\u0103 moarte? ei, bine&#8230; (c\u0103 nu-i nimic.) poate o speran\u0163a ar fi cu memoria colectiv\u0103 (la propriu \u015fi la figurat). aproape de fiecare dat\u0103 miturile globale s-au demonstrat ulterior ca pornite de la ceva adev\u0103rat \u015fi c\u0103 nu se perpetueaz\u0103 prin secole chiar degeaba. deformarea lor e altceva.<br \/>\n&#8211; upgrade-ul de con\u015ftiin\u0163a poate \u00eensemna nu mai mult incon\u015ftient (informa\u0163ie) adus \u00een con\u015ftient ci mai multe con\u015ftiin\u0163e emerged, ceea ce s-ar realiza foarte precar nowadays prin social media (gen Google Glass?). e posibil ca mai multul zah\u0103r \u00een instala\u0163ie a ultimilor ani s\u0103 sprijine acest lucru, pentru c\u0103 mersul \u00eenainte se face cu becuri aprinse mai mult, mai des &#8211; more.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; ateii \u015fi persoanele religioase de fapt opereaz\u0103 \u00een acela\u015fi spa\u0163iu, de\u015fi cu unelte aparent diferite, dar distincte invers propor\u0163ional \u00een sofisticare \u015fi \u00een eficien\u0163\u0103.<br \/>\n&#8211; qualia &#8211; calitatea experien\u0163ei<br \/>\n&#8211; c\u00e2nd o parte a filtr\u0103rii de informa\u0163ie e\u015fueaz\u0103 atunci qualia\/realm se modific\u0103 put\u00e2nd provoca experien\u0163e &#8216;cosmice&#8217;. care sunt halucina\u0163ii sau ceea CE elementar suntem? cum s-ar putea experimenta cu asta: substan\u0163e psihotice, cu neurotransmi\u0163\u0103tori (adic\u0103 care\/cum\/c\u00e2t?!) sau prin chirurgie (practic\u0103 periculoas\u0103 pentru c\u0103 putem dezafecta \u015fi alte sisteme \u015fi ar putea duce la handicapuri serioase precum dispari\u0163ia spa\u0163iului left\/right cu totul din respectiva qualia)<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; cum ELEMENTAR? suntem modele complicate ale ceva m\u0103re\u0163 &#8211; cu\/prin mecanisme de simplificare, care &#8220;re&#8221;-virtualizeaz\u0103 realitatea, \u015fi care &#8211; cumva ironic \/ nobil &#8211; se dezvolt\u0103 treptat tinz\u00e2nd spre complicatul \u015fi mai mare &#8216;ini\u0163ial&#8217;. recomplicat.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp; <\/p>\n<h2>Atunci c\u00e2nd vom afla ce este con\u0219tiin\u021ba nu vom mai avea nevoie de zei.<\/h2>\n<p>&nbsp; <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Cartea &#8220;Teatrul min\u021bii&#8221; Jay Ingram, Ed. Curtea Veche, 2008 mi-a facut rezumatul unor lecturi din varii domenii a ultimilor 3-4 ani de \u00eentreb\u0103ri, c\u0103ut\u0103ri \u0219i r\u0103spunsuri. Iata-l, \u00eempreun\u0103 cu micile mele complet\u0103ri. Q: &#8211; The Question: cum se realizeaz\u0103 \u00een creier con\u015ftiin\u0163a? din (ce) componente \/ ce module implic\u0103. &#8211; q.: este generat\u0103 (varianta preferat\u0103 [&hellip;]<\/p>\n<a role=\"link\" class=\"rtp-readmore\" title=\"Read more on despre con\u0219tiin\u021b\u0103 (2014)\" href=\"https:\/\/kul.ro\/blog\/2014\/07\/despre-constiinta-2014\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Read More &rarr;<\/a>","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[35,37,18,41],"class_list":["post-5407","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-orice","tag-cartz","tag-jesus","tag-last-temptation","tag-neuro"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/kul.ro\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5407","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/kul.ro\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/kul.ro\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kul.ro\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kul.ro\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5407"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/kul.ro\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5407\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/kul.ro\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5407"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kul.ro\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5407"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kul.ro\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5407"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}